सिनेमा और साहित्य पर संजीव कुमार झा की उदय प्रकाश से बातचीत

latho dqekj >k % mn; izdk’k th] esjk lcls igyk loky flusek vkSj lkfgR; ds chp dk tks Q+dZ gS vkSj mlds chp ds tks laca/k gaS] mldks ysdj gS A bldks vki dSls ns[krs gSa \

mn; izdk’k % nsf[k,] ;s nksukssa vyx&vyx dyk :i gSa vkSj vki ;s ekudj pfy, fd tSls&tSls VsDuksykWth dk fodkl gksrk gS--- ;s ges’kk dk ,d fu;e gS--- rks oks vkVZ QkWeZ~l tks igys ,d&nwljs ds cgqr djhc yxrs Fks] mues ,d MkbotZal gksrk tkrk gS A oks ,d&nwljs ls nwj gksrs tkrs gSa vkSj muds Lisf’kfQds’kal c<+rs pys tkrs gSa A lkfgR; esa gh vxj vki ns[ksa rks vkt lkfgR; ftl rjg ls fy[kk vkSj i<+k tk jgk gS ;k ftl rjg ls izksM~;wl vkSj fMLVªhC;wV fd;k tk jgk gS--- mldh tks iwjh ekdsZfVax gS vkSj ftl izfØ;k esa og ikBdksa rd igqap jgk gS] oks mlls fcYdqy fHkUu gS] tks izh&ekWMZu Vkbe esa dHkh gqvk djrk Fkk A blh rjg igys lkfgR; vkSj jaxeap esa dksbZ varj ugh Fkk A dfork vkSj fFk;sVj esa dksbZ cgqr QdZ ugh Fkk A ukVd yxHkx dkO;kRd gh gqvk djrs Fks vkSj gj vPNk ukVd] dkO; gksrk Fkk A gekjs tks ,fiDl Fks] tSls egkHkkjr] jkek;.k ftuds ukV~; :ikarj.k Hkh gq, vkSj tks egkdkO; Hkh Fks A ysfdu vk/kqfud le; esa yxHkx vki ekudj pysa fd 18oha lnh ds ckn ;s MkbotZal c<+rk x;k gS vkSj vkt fd tks fLFkfr gS--- vxj vkidk loky vkt ds lanHkZ esa gS rks fuf’pr gh lkfgR; vkSj flusek dk ml rjg dk dksbZ laca/k ugh gS A laca/k cukus dks rks cuk;k tk ldrk gS fd tSls vki ,MkWIVslu dh ckr djus okys gSa ftldk rktk mnkgj.k fodkl Lo:i dk ‘Q ,aM A’  gS ftl ij LyeMkWx feysfu;j cuh A vc ,MkWIVs’ku dks dqN yksx vktdy ubZ Hkk”kk esa fMt+kbu dgrs gSa fd ,d ukWosy dks flusek ds fy, dSls fMt+kbu djsa A rks ;s ,d ubZ rjg dh t+:jr gS ysfdu flusek dk iwjk uSjsfVo] flusek dk gS vkSj lkfgR; dk iwjk uSjsfVo] lkfgR; dk gS A ,d lsfeukj esa eSa x;k gqvk Fkk vkSj ogka ,slh gh ckrphr py jgh Fkh--- rks fdlh us dgk fd ,d miU;kl gS] ftldk igyk gh okD; gS& ^tks dejk Fkk og fdpu esa mcyrs gq, vkyw ds xa/k ls Hkjk gqvk Fkk---* vc vki bls dSls fQYek,axs A

latho % vkyw ds xa/k dks !

mn; izdk’k % gka] vkyw ds xa/k dks--- rks vc ;s pht lkfgR; esa rks gS A blhfy, nksuksa vyx&vyx rjg ds vocks/k dks--- gekjh tks lsalst+ gSa---gekjh tks bfUnz;ka gSa--- gekjk tks iwjk laosnu rRo gS] gekjh lkjh lsallZ] mu lc ds vyx&vyx i{kksa dks ysusokyh ;s dyk :i gS A rks ;s vki t+:j dg ldrs gSa fd flusek ,d ,slk dyk :Ik gS ftlesa lc dqN lekfgr gS A dqN yksxksa dk dguk gS fd vkfdZVsDpj dks NksM+dj A ysfdu esjk ekuuk gS fd mlesa vkfdZVsDpj Hkh ‘kkfey gS A mlesa E;wft+d gS] mlesa isafVax gS] dfork] dgkuh] fFk;sVj] fMt+kbfuax oxSjg] lc dqN gS A mlesa dqN ,slk ugha gS tks flusek ds Hkhrj ‘kkfey u gks A blfy, ekudj pyk tkrk gS fd ^flusek bt , osjh dkWEiySDl vkVZ Q+kWeZ*--- blesa cgqr lkjs dyk :i ,d esa lfEeyr gksrs gSa vkSj rc flusek dk fuekZ.k gksrk gS A lkfgR; esa ‘kk;n ,slk ugh gS A lkfgR; ds ewyHkwr VwYl gh vki ns[ksa rks vkWFkj ;k ys[kd dks D;k pkfg, gksrk Fkk A ,d cgqr lLrh lh dye vkSj ,dkar A dk¶+dk rks dgrk gh Fkk fd lkfgR;dkj ;k ys[kd dks tks ,dkar pkfg, oks ,slk ,dkar gS tks fdlh lU;klh dk ugh gS A og e`R;q ds ckn dk ,dkar gksrk gS A tcfd flusek dks funsZ’kd dk ek/;e ekuk tkrk gS A fQYe cuus dh izfØ;k brus yksxksa dk lfEeyu gS fd crk ugh ldrk A fQYe ds [kRe gksus ij tks VkbVy jksy gksrk gS---

latho % gka] tks iVdFkk ds vkf[kj esa vkerkSj ij fy[kk tkrk gS& QsM vkmV---- ØsfMV~l jksy A

mn; izdk’k % gka] gka A rks oks fyLV rks dqN ugh gS] tks yksx fQYe fuek.kZ esa lpeqp Hkkx ysrs gSa mldk nloka fgLlk Hkh ugh gS A rks vxj ns[ksa rks flusek vkSj lkfgR; dk laca/k gS Hkh vkSj ugh Hkh gS A vkt ds le; esa vki ns[ksaxs rks eSa ekuwaxk fd laca/k gksuk pkfg, D;w¡fd gqvk D;k gS fd [kklrkSj ls vLlh ds n’kd ds ckn VsDuksykWth vi:VsM gks jgh gS A rduhd ,d U;wVªy QkWeZ ds :i esa lkeus vk jgh gS vkSj oks ;s ekudj py jgh gS fd n’kZd fdlh fyfoax g~;weu lkslkbVh dk fgLlk ugh gS A ns vkj vkoj DykbaV~l A ns vkj vkoj daT+;welZ A rks oks mudks yxHkx miHkksDrk ds rkSj ij ns[k jgh gS A ;s lqfo/kk flusek dks rduhd us nh gS A eq>s yxrk gS fd ges’kk ls flusek dk izHkko cgqr T;knk jgk gSA og ges’kk ls lkekftd ifjorZu dk vkSj lekt ij izHkko Mkyus dk ,d cgqr gh dkjxj ek/;e jgk gS A rks mlesa bl rjg dk vyxko vius lekt ls ugha gksuk pkfg, A lekt vkSj ckt+kj nksuksa esa varj gS A vkSj bl varj dks gesa le>uk pkfg, fd gj n’kZd tks flusek ns[kus tkrk gS oks flQZ miHkksDrk ugh gksrk gS] oks flQZ n’kZd Hkh ugha gksrk gS cfYd oks ,sls lekt dk Hkh ,d vax gksrk gS ftl lekt dh viuh dqN leL;k,a gSa] ladV gSa A mldh viuh ,d ijaijk gS A rks tc rd oks nwljs :i esa ugha ns[ksxk rc rd ‘kk;n oks viuh ml Hkwfedk ds lkFk U;k; ugh dj ik,xk A tSls vki ikFksj ikapkyh dk mnkgj.k yhft, A ml fQYe dks vki vkt Hkh nsf[k,--- oks ,d Dykfld d`fr gS vkSj vkidk tks iz’u gS lkfgR; vkSj flusek dk--- ‘kk;n bldks le>us dk lcls csgrjhu mnkgj.k Hkh gS A lR;thr js us mls ,MkWIV fd;k] mlesa vki nsf[k, fd tks mlds ik= gSa--- firk gS] ek¡ gS] mldk csVk vIiw] csVh nqxkZ--- rks ;s dksbZ fdlku ugh gS--- izsepan dh rjg A vIiw dk tks firk gS gfjgj] oks ,d ys[kd gS vkSj mldh ihf<+;k¡ pyh vkbaZ gSa ml xk¡o esa--- tks ogka ds fo}ku ekus tkrs gSa vkSj oks pkgrk gS fd ,d ys[kd ds :i esa viuh igpku vkSj vkthfodk cuk, A og dkQh la?k”kZ djrk gS A ,d ls ,d =klfn;ka >syrk gS A mldh csVh nqxkZ dh e`R;q gks pqdh gS] yxkrkj vHkko esa iM+us ls mldk iwjk ?kj

latho % vPNk] D;k vki ekurs gSa fd Dykfld fQYeksa dh--- vPNh fQYeksa dh tks fLØIV gS oks Hkh ,d fyVªspj gS \

mn; izdk’k % ;g FkksM+k Vs<+k loky gS] latho A D;ksafd lkfgR; dh tks ifjHkk”kk ekU; gS mlesa rks iVdFkk vc rd dHkh ugh vk;k vkSj eSa ,slk Hkh ugha ekurk gw¡ fd iVdFkk ys[ku ;k iVdFkk dksbZ bufQfjvj tkWuj gS D;ksafd ,d vPNh iVdFkk ys[ku esa Hkh cgqr rduhdh n{krk vkSj ‘kk;n lkfgR; ds fy, t+:jh ftrus laxBd gSa] mudh Hkh ekStwnxh gksrh gh gS A og Hkh lkfgR; ls dksbZ de fMekafMax ugha gksrh ysfdu lkfgR; gS fd ugh ;s dg ikuk cM+k eqf’dy gS A nsf[k,] fd ,d vPNh iVdFkk esa dSejk gS] lsV fMt+kbfuax gS] dkWLV~;we dk tks lsD’ku gS vkSj tks vkafxd vFkok ‘kkjhfjd---

latho % ,sD’ku

mn; izdk’k % gka] ,sD’ku A mu lcdk ladsr gksrk gS vkSj ladsr ,d dksMsM ySaXost esa gksrk gS A tcfd lkfgR; cgqr lkekU; Hkk”kk esa fy[kk tkus okyk vkSj yxHkx ogh Hkk”kk tks O;oâr gS--- ftldks vkeyksx cksy vkSj le> ldrss gSa] ml Hkk”kk esa fy[kk tkus okyk ,d Hkkf”kd dyk :i gS A iVdFkk flQZ Hkkf”kd dyk :i ugh gS A tSls eSa tks iVdFkk fy[krk gw¡ oks vki ik,axs fd og ckbZ fyaxqoy gksrk gS--- f}Hkk”kh gksrk gS vkSj mldh ekax Hkh gS A tSls vkt ds flusek ;k Vhoh esa tks yksx fgLlk ys jgs gSa oks fgUnh Hkk”kh {ks= ls ugh vkrs gSa A [kkldj mldk tks VsDuhdy fØo gS A dksbZ dsjy dk gksxk] dksbZ dukZVd dk gksxk] rks dksbZ egkjk”Vª dk A muls vki vis{kk ugha dj ldrs fd oks vkids fgUnh esa fy[ks x, ladsrksa dks i<+sa A rks mlesa tks lts’kal gksrs gSa oks vaxzth esa gksrs gSa D;w¡fd ;s QSDV gS fd vaxzth gh gekjh laidZ Hkk”kk gS A laokn t+:j jgrs gSa fgUnh esa D;w¡fd vfHkusrkvksa ls ge ;s vis{kk j[krs gSa fd vxj fgUnh esa fQYe cu jgh gS rks oks fgUnh cksysa A ysfdu laokn Hkh jkseu esa fy[ks tk jgs gSa] ukxjh esa ugh] D;ksafd vki dSVjhuk dSQ ls ;s mEehn ugha dj ik,axs fd oks ukxjh i<+ ldsa A ;s dqN etcwfj;ka Hkh gSa A rks bl :i esa iVdFkk vkSj lkfgR;--- ,slk eq>s yxrk gS] nksuksa vyx&vxy phtsa gSa A ,d cgqr cM+s ekDlZoknh vkykspd gSa] Vsjh bxYVu A oks dFkkdkj Hkh Fks A mUgksaus Hkk”kk oSKkfud osfVxafLVu ds thou ij ,d miU;kl fy[kk Fkk A osfVxafLVu dk thou cM+k gkaVsM thou Fkk A fo’o ;q)] fof{kIrrk] volkn A rks oks fgalk ds izfr--- ysftVhekbT+M LVsV LikalMZ tks ok;ysal gksrk gS--- tc vki ikrs gSa fd jk”Vª ,d nwljs ls yM+ jgs gSa vkSj tks jk”Vª yM+ jgs gSa mudk vk/kkj bruk ldjk gS--- dgha uLy gS] dgha mudh edsZV t+:jrsa gSa rks muds fy, tc vki mUgsa yM+rs gq, ns[krs gSa rks mlls tks fgalk iSnk gksrh gS] dSfVlVªkWQh iSnk gksrh gS- fo/oal iSnk gksrk gS--- oks fdlh Hkh laosnu’khy O;fDr dks fopfyr djrk gS A rks osfVxafLVu dk thou cM+k gkaVsM thou Fkk A vkSj /khjs&/khjs oks ,d rjg ls foMªkW djrs x, vkSj yxHkx lU;klh tSlk mudk LoHkko gksrk x;k vkSj mUgksaus Hkk”kk esa gh vius dks Mqck fn;k A mUgksaus ekuk fd lkjs lkekftd jksxksa dk tks tsusfll gS oks mlh esa gS ftlls gekjh psruk dk fuek.kZ gksrk gS vkSj oks gS Hkk”kk A mruk cM+k fMoksVsM ‘kk;n gh dksbZ ySaXost fQykWlQ+j jgk gks A rks muds thou ij Vsjh bxYVu us miU;kl fy[kk Fkk A ‘kk;n mldk uke Fkk& lkbaVsuflul A og miU;kl dkQh e’kgwj gks pqdk Fkk A tc ml ij fQYe cukus dh ckr vkbZ rks dgk x;k fd Vsjh bxYVu gh mldh iVdFkk fy[ksa A mUgksaus cM+s eu ls mldh iVdFkk fy[kh A ysfdu tc oks iVdFkk funsZ’kd ds ikl xbZ rks oks mls ilan ugh vkbZ vkSj mlus mls [kkfjt dj fn;k vkSj fdlh nwljs ls iVdFkk fy[kokbZ A ysfdu fQYe esa tks ØsfMV Fkk mldh iVdFkk vkSj miU;kl ys[kd nksuksa esa Vsjh bxYVu dk gh uke Fkk A Vsjh bxYVu us bl ij vkifÙk trkbZ fd esjh iVdFkk ugha gS rks esjk uke ugh vkuk pkfg, A cgjgky] bl ij dkQh fookn gqvk A ckn esa le>kSrk Hkh gqvk ysfdu ftu yksxksa us Vsjh bxYVu dh fy[kh gqbZ iVdFkk ns[kh] muesa ls cgqr yksxksa dk dguk Fkk fd oks vn~Hkqr iVdFkk Fkh A vc nksuksa iVdFkk ds varj dks nsf[k,--- ftl ij fQYe cuh vkSj ftls [kkfjt dj fn;k x;k Fkk] muesa eq[; varj ;s Fkk fd ftl ij fQYe cuh ml iVdFkk esa tks ckgj ;q) gks jgs Fks] tks ,sfrgkfld ?kVuk,a ?kV jgha Fkha] eq[;r% mudk ft+Ø Fkk A bfrgkl ds fMVsYl mlesa T;knk Fks vkSj bfrgkl ds Hkhrj ls tks Mªkek iSnk gks jgk Fkk] ukVdh;rk iSnk gks jgh Fkh mudk fot+qvykbts’ku T+;knk Fkk A tcfd Vsjh bxYVu dh iVdFkk esa baVjuy oYMZ Fkk A ml ys[kd dh tks iwjh Hkhrjh =klnh Fkh--- tSls vki eqfDrcks/k dk vkarfjd la?k”kZ dgrs gSa--- ^dkWuf¶DV vkWQ ekbaM* rks esjk ekuuk gS fd tks vPNh iVdFkk gksrh gS--- vxj vki eq>ls bekunkjh ls iwNsa rks LyeMkWx eq>s fcYdqy ilan ugh gS A D;ksafd ,d flusek ds :i esa eSa mlesa dqN Hkh ugha ikrk gw¡ A

latho % ;s cgqr fnypLi ckr gksxh fd vkius mlesa flusek ds :i esa dqN Hkh ugh ik;k A LyeMkWx dh ppkZ iwjh nqfu;k esa gS---

mn; izdk’k % ¼jksddj½ mldk ,d dkj.k gS A irk ugha ;s ppkZ dc rd pysxh ysfdu esjk [+;ky gS fd ftUgksaus mldks vokWMZ fn;k gS] ;s ckr oks Hkh tkurs gSa fd og dgka ij LVSaM djrh gS A vkWLdj ikus okyh rks ^flaMylZ fyLV* Hkh gS vkSj dksLrk xkojkl dh ^t+sM* Hkh gS A cgqr lkjh fQYesa gSa A

latho % fjpMZ ,Vucjks dh ^xka/kh*

mn; izdk’k % gka] xka/kh dks Hkh dbZ ,dsMeh vokWMlZ feys gSa A vki muds lkFk LyeMkWx dh rqyuk djds nsf[k, A eq>s ugha yxrk--- eSa fcYdqy dufoal ugha gw¡ fd LyeMkWx Hkkjr dh x+jhch dks Hkh--- ml ekfeZdrk ds lkFk lkeus ykrh gS tgka oks ,d ,slh g~;weu VªsthMh ds :i esa fn[kkbZ iM+s tks eSu esM gS--- ikoVhZ ,ojhcMh ,DlsIV~l bt+ ukWV uspqjy--- bV~l ekbaM fØ,VsM Økbfll--- gS u A fgYl lkWuh us xkfMZ;u esa ,d Hk;kud ys[k fy[kk gS] latho A og cgqr xaHkhj ys[k gS A mUgksaus bls ikWuZ dgk gS ! mUgksaus fy[kk gS fd LyeMkWu feysfu;j ,d ikoVhZ ikWuZ gS A FkMZ oYMZ dh tks x+jhch gS [kklrkSj ls Hkkjr dh tks x+jhch gS D;ksafd Hkkjr ds lkFk ,d cM+h leL;k ;s gks xbZ gS fd tks vkfFkZd fo”kerk gS vkSj blesa ,¶;w,al dk tks ,d lsDlu vki curk gqvk ns[krs gSa--- pkgs og ianzg izfr’kr vkcknh dk gh D;wa u gks--- tks vkt nqfu;k ds lcls cM+s ekdsZV dk fuekZ.k dj jgk gS--- lcls cM+s daT;wej xzqi dk fuekZ.k dj jgk gS--- rks ;s ianzg&chl izfr’kr dh tks vkcknh gS--- blesa tks le`f) gS] ;gka dk tks bdkWukWfde xzksFk gS] oks vesft+x gS A phu Hkh mlds lkFk dksii ugha dj ik jgk gS A rks osLV ds fy, D;k gS fd mlesa mldks etk vk jgk gS fd ns[kks rqEgkjs ,f’k;k dk tks bdkWukWfed ikoj gS mlesa yksx f’kV~ esa jg jgs gSa A rks LyeMkWx dks oks iksuZ dgrk gS vkSj dgrk gS fd ,slk D;wa gS fd tks cSadkd gS] fQfyfiUl gS] FkkbZySaM gS vkSj Hkkjr gS ;k usiky gS--- lcls T+;knk tks iksuZ gS oks ;gka dks ysdj gS A ,d ftKklk jgrh gS A vQxkfuLrku esa tks vVSd gq, mlls vQxkuh iksuZ dk ,d xzqe vk x;k] bjkfd;ksa ls A rks tks lCtqxsVsM g~;weu xzqIl gksrs gSa ogka dk iksuZ lcls T+;knk fdafVysfVax gksrk gS A tSls vkius jsuqvka fd fQYe ns[kh gksxh& ^eslsfyuk* A mlesa esa tks gC’kh Fks& uhxzks] mudks ,d vkWCtsDV ekudj fiatM+s esa ‘ksj ds lkFk yM+k;k tk jgk gS vkSj mudh ekSr dk yksx vkuan ys jgs gSa A nwljh rjQ] tks xksjh jkfu;ka gSa& Dohal] muds lsDlqvy lSfVLQSD’ku ds fy, ;s gh gC’kh yksx mi;ksx esa yk;s tk jgs gSa A rks bl rjg ls fjM~;wl dj nsuk A rks mlus fy[kk gS fd bl le; tks nkSj vk;k gS vf/kdka’k vaxzth ds ys[kdksa esa--- tSls lqdsrq esgrk dh tks ^eSfDlee flVh* gS ;k fodkl Lo:Ik dh ‘Q ,aM A’  gS] ;s lc Qs+d gSa A dksbZ Hkh yM+dk ftlus i<+kbZ ugha dh gS] ftlus Ldwy dk eqag ugha ns[kk gS vkSj vki vPNh rjg ls tkurs gSa fd flQZ pkat ds t+fj, dksbZ feysfu;j ugha cu ldrk A nwljh rjQ cgqr gh pkykdh ls ftl ij eSa lger gw¡] fgYl lkWuh ls vkSj reke ,sls yksxksa ls fd bl bdkWukWeh dks vkSj bl iwjs ekWMy dks--- tks fÝM cSad dk bdkWukWfed ekWMy gS] tks ;s ekurk gS fd vki xSacy ds tfj,] fcuk Je fd, vkSj fdLer ds lgkjs--- pkal ds tfj, vehj cu ldrs gSa] bldks yxkrkj ijispq,V djuk--- ;g crkuk fd vkidks esgur dh dksbZ t+:jr ugh gS--- bekunkjh dh dksbZ t+:jr ugh gS] vkt fd bdkWukWdh] Je ls iwjh rjg fMVSPM gS--- tLV xks ,aM xSacy--- tLV xks ,aM xsV pkal--- n gksy ekdsZV bt+ jsMh Vw QqyfQy ;ksj fMªEl--- rks ;s mles gksrk gS A

latho % vPNk] ge fQj ls ckrphr ds ewy fo”k; ij ykSVrs gSa A ,d pht ftldh dkQh ppkZ gqbZ gS--- yksx dkQh dqN dgrs gSa fd fgUnh lkfgR; ds tks yksx gSa oks flusek ds izfr ,d [kkl nqjkxzg ls xzLr gSa vkSj vki nsf[k, ;s ckr vius ewy esa lp Hkh gS fd fganh flusek us lkfgR;dkjksa dk dHkh vuknj ugha fd;k A flusek ds yksxksa us lkfgR; ds yksxksa dks ftruk Lohdkj fd;k mruk ‘kk;n lkfgR; ds yksxksa us flusek dks Lohdkj ugha fd;k A D;k vkidks ,slk ugh yxrk \

mn; izdk’k % nsf[k,] vkidk dguk lgh gS ysfdu mldk dkj.k eSa dkQh gn rd le> ugh ik jgk gwa A izsepan x, Fks ysfdu ugha fVd ik, A js.kq Hkh x, Fks vkSj oks ,d gn rd lQy Hkh gq, A ‘kSysUnz [kqn cgqr vPNs dfo Hkh Fks] jkgh eklwe jt+k dks nsf[k, oks cgqr cM+s dFkkdkj Fks A ^Vksih ‘kqDyk* ;k ^vk/kk xkao* tSlh jpuk,a dksbZ ekewyh ys[kd ugh fy[k ldrk gS A euksgj ‘;ke tks’kh A

latho % deys’oj A

mn; izdk’k % fcYdqy A deys’oj Hkh A ÅnZq esa ,slk ugha gS] ckaXyk esa Hkh ,slk ugh gS A fgUnh esa irk ugha dkSu lk ,slk lkbDykWftdy dkWEiySDl gS---

latho % th fcYdqy A ckaXyk dh vki ckr dj jgs gSa] ogka ij vki nsf[k, fd uosUnq ?kks”k ckaXyk ds ,d leFkZ dFkkdkj Fks vkSj mUgksaus fcey jk; dh dbZ egRoiw.kZ fQYeksa dh iVdFkk,a fy[kha A

mn; izdk’k % vkils eSa fcYdqy lger gwa vkSj blds ihNs dkj.k ‘kk;n ;s gS fd fgUnh dk tks lkfgR; gS oks nqHkkZX; ls turk dk lkfgR; ugh jg x;k gS A njvly mlus vius vki dks tks baLVhV~;w’kuy iSVªksfut gS--- lkaLFkkfud laj{k.k dh vksj tkrk pyk x;k gS vkSj oks fgUnh foHkkxksa dk lkfgR; jg x;k gS ;k fQj vdknfe;ksa o laLFkkuksa dk lkfgR; jg x;k gS A vkSj flusek rks viuh izd`fr ls gh ikWiqyj gS vkSj oks turk dk gS A dksbZ Hkh fQYe curh gS rks oks blfy, ugh curh fd mls fdlh laLFkku ds vkWfMVksfj;e esa fn[kk fn;k tk, A mlesa ekdsZV dk iwjk dSYdqys’ku pyrk gS fd bldks fdrus yksx ns[kus vk,axs A rks vkt Hkh tks fQYe dks ikl ;k Qsy djusokyk gS] oks mldk n’kZd gS A lkfgR; esa ,slk ugh gS A blfy, ‘kk;n ;s lekukarj gksrk x;k A fgUnh fQYeksa dh yksdfiz;rk c<+rh xbZ A bl ij vk’kh”k uanh dk ,d cgqr vPNk ys[k Hkh vk;k gS A cyjkt lkguh dh vkRedFkk Hkh gS--- vki if<+, mldks A oks dksbZ bufQfjvj ugh Fks cfYd ‘kkafr fudsru esa izksQslj Fks vkSj ckSf)d :i ls vktdy ds fgUnh dk tks vkpk;Z gS muls dbZ xquk T+;knk oks i<+s fy[ks Hkh Fks A mlesa mUgksaus dgk gS fd ^ftudks ge def’kZvy ckWyhoqM fQYe dgrs gSa vkSj ;s ekurs gSa fd ;s FkMZ jsV gSa* rks os dgrs gSa fd ^;s FkMZ jsV fQYe] QLVZ jsV ekbaM~l dh cukbZ gqbZ gSa* A ‘kSysUnz dksbZ FkMZ jsV ds dfo ugha Fks A Q+St+ vgen QS+t+ ;k dSQh vkt+eh ;k tkafulkj v[+rj ;s lc yksx ,slk ugha gS fd vkSlr ntsZ+ ds Fks ;k xqyt+kj Hkh--- gS uk--- rks gqvk D;k gS fd ¼t+ksj nsdj½ ,d cgqr gh lqjf{kr fdLe ds laLFkku lajf{kr vkSj jkT; lajf{kr] jkT; iksf”kr leqnk; us ;s fLFkfr iSnk dj nh gS A ftldh vki ckr dj jgs gSa--- oks fdlh Hkh ,sls O;fDr dks--- flusek gh D;k vxj dksbZ lkfgR;dkj gh yksdfiz; gksus yx tk, rks mldks os fjtsDV dj nsrs gSa fd ;s rks yksdfiz; lkfgR; fy[krk gS A

latho % lqfu;ksftr

mn; izdk’k % gka] js.kq dks ! mudks oSls gh fjtsDV dj fn;k x;k Fkk tcfd lPpkbZ ;s gS oks ftudks Lohdkj djrs gSa mls ml le; Hkh dksbZ ugha i<+rk gS vkSj u gh Hkfo”; esa dHkh i<+sxk A rks bl rjg dk vijk/k ;k dguk pkfg, iki deZ djus esa yksx yxs gq, gSa vkSj blesa fgUnh dk cgqr cM+k uqdlku gS A tSls eSa ,d mnkgj.k nsrk gw¡] ,p-,l- f’koizdk’k dks vki tkurs gksaxs tks vktdy ts-,u-;w esa Hkk”kk foKku esa gSa A igys oks lkfgR; vdkneh ls vaxzth esa fudyus okyh if=dk ^daVsEijjh bafM;k fyVªspj* ds laiknd Fks A os esjs nksLr gSa vkSj dUuM+ ds cgqr vPNs dfo vkSj ukVddkj gSa A rks muls eSa feyus x;k gqvk Fkk vkSj ogha ij ,d vkneh igys ls gh cSBk Fkk A ge nksuksa ,d ?kaVs cSBs jgs A ckrphr dh] pk; oxSjg ih] uk’rk fd;k vkSj ?kaVs Hkj ckn tc oks vkneh pyk x;k rks mUgksaus eq>ls iwNk] ^ekywe gS dkSu cSBk gqvk Fkk \* eSaus cksyk& ^ugha* A rks mUgksaus crk;k fd ;s fojIiu ekSyh Fks] eq[;ea=h A rks lksfp, fd ogka ij vius lkfgR; ;k dfo dk bruk lEeku Fkk fd eq[;ea=h vkdj ,d dfo ds lkFk dqlhZ ij cSBk pk; ih jgk gS A ysfdu geus fgUnh esa rks ,slk jgus ugh fn;k A nqHkkZX; ls ftldks vki fgUnh iV~Vh dgrs gSa tks fcgkj ls ‘kq: gksdj jktLFkku rd tkrk gS& mÙkjizns’k] e/;izns’k] fcgkj ftlesa eq[; :i ls vkrs gSa A ;gka ij lkfgR; dh fLFkfr cgqr gh [k+jkc gqbZ gS A mlds ikBd ,sls reke dkj.kksa ls dVs gSa A ys[kdksa ds ljksdkj lekt ls de gq, gSa vkSj oks ,slk ,fDlysal pkgrs gSa ftldks gks ldrk gS fd jktuhfr rks Lohdkj dj ys--- mls ikWfyfVdy fjdkWXkfu’ku rks fey tk,xh ysfdu ekl fjdkWXkfu’ku ;k turk dh Lohd`fr drbZ ugh feysxh A

latho % vc ,MkWIVs’ku ij vkrs gSa] mn; izdk’k th A dHkh&dHkh rks eq>s yxrk gS fd ;s tks ^,MkWIVs’ku* ‘kCn gS u] ;s viuh izd`fr ls gh fookfnr fdLe dh pht+ gS A vki fdlh Hkh ,sls ,MkWIVs’ku dks mBkdj nsf[k, A mlls tqM+k gqvk dksbZ u dksbZ fookn] vkjksi&izR;kjksi vkidks fey tk,xk A ,slk dksbZ jkLrk gS tks bl fookn dks [k+Re djus esa lgk;d fl) gks ;k de djrk gks---

mn; izdk’k % ;s fookn rks jgsxk A ,d dkj.k eSa crkÅ¡ vkidks A vki vuqokn dks gh yhft, A ftldks rt+qZek dgrs gSa A Vªkalys’ku A rks vuqokn esa Hkh fookn gS A gkykafd oks ,MkWIVs’ku rks ugh gS cfYd mlls Hkh vklku pht+ gS A :ikarj.k esa rks vki iwjk VªkalQ+kWeZ djrs gSa--- ,d ek/;e ls nwljs ek/;e esa ys tkrs gSa A ;gka rks vkidk esfM;e ogh jgrk gS flQZ Hkk”kk cnyrh gS ysfdu ogka Hkh fookn gksrs gSa A vuqokn dk dke Hkh dkQh dfBu gS A dgk tkrk gS u fd ^eqaMs&eqaMs efrj fHkUus* A gj flj esa ,d vyx efLr”d gksrk gS vkSj dksbZ Hkh vkVZ pkgs oks E;wft+d gks] dfork gks] dgkuh gks--- dqN Hkh gks og ,d bafMfot+qvy ekbaM dh mRifÙk gS A tc mlesa nwljk ekbaM lfEefyr gksrk gS--- Hkys gh oks vuqokn gh dj jgk gks rks ,d rks igys mldh ;wfuVh] mldh vkbMasfVfQds’ku vkWQ n jkbVj] fQj ;wfuVh ;k vkbMsafVfQds’ku ds ihNs dk ,d iwjk dkWEiySDl oYMZ--- Hkk”kk] ns’k] laLd`fr] mlds QwM gSfcV~l] mldh ijaijk] mldk bfrgkl ;s lc ek;us j[krs gSa A eku yhft, fd esjh dgkuh dk vuqokn dksbZ teZu Hkk”kk esa dj jgk gS rks vc vki nsf[k, fd fdruk cM+k dYpjy xSi gS nksuksa esa A ysfdu oks teZu Hkk”kk esa vuwfnr gksrh gS] mldks ikBd feyrs gSa] rks bruk vklku ugh gS A tSls blkb;ksa ds fy, cM+h ifo= pht+ gS& ^bLVj ,x* ;kuh ifo= vaMk A vc vki ifo= vaMk fgUnh esa dSls fy[ksaxs A ;k ^chQ+* gS] rks chQ ;wjksi esa] bVyh esa] teZuh esa cgqr dkWeu gS A gj dksbZ chQ+ [kkrk gS A ysfdu fgUnh lkfgR; esa chQ+ [kkus dk o.kZu vki mlh pko ds lkFk djsa rks dSlk gksxk A blfy, ;s iwjk dYpjy VªkalfØ,’ku gS A ,MkWIVs’ku ds lkFk vkSj Hkh leL;k,a tqM+h gqbZ gSa A igyk rks ;s fd fdl ek/;e ds fy, :ikarj.k fd;k tk jgk gS A jaxeap ds fy, vyx rjg ls fd;k tkrk gS vkSj flusek ds fy, vyx rjg ls A flusek dh tks t+:jrsa gSa oks fcYdqy nwljh gSa A tSls vHkh eSaus mnkgj.k fn;k vkidks Vsjh bxYVu dk A ,d ik= dk iwjk buj oYMZ vkSj ,d blls fHkUu A vc ,slh fQYe dkSu cuk,xk A rkjdksoksLdh buj oYMZ esa T+;knk tk,xk--- ;k fQj D;wfczd gS A fodkl Lo:i us Hkh vius baVjO;w esa dgk gS fd LyeMkWx muds miU;kl ls fcYdqy fHkUu gS A rks bl rjg dh ckr gS A ,d mnkgj.k cM+k vPNk gS] eSa crkuk pkgwaxk A og gS rkjdksoksLdh dh fQYe ^lsfØQkbl* dk A lsfØQkbl] fo’o ;q) ds fojks/k esa jkT; }kjk fn;k x;k ,d izkWtsDV Fkk A ml ij mUgsa fQYe cukus dks fn;k x;k] QafMax Hkh ogh ls gqbZ fd vkidks fgalk ds fojks/k esa ,d fQYe cukuh gS rks ftu yksxksa us rkjdksoksLdh dks pquk Fkk muds fnekx esa ^cSVyf’ki iksVsEifdu* tSlh fQYesa Fkha fd mlesa VSad gks] okj gks] ;q) gks---;q) ds tks ?kkrd ifj.kke fudyrs gSa A

latho % ;kuh ;q) ds fojks/k esa ,d ,slh fQYe gks ftlesa ;q) ds fy, iz;qDr gksus okys reke midj.k gksa--- tcfd fQYe esa ,slk dqN ugh gS A

mn; izdk’k % fcYdqy A fQYe esa dksbZ ;q) ugh gS] dksbZ VSad ugh] rksi ugh] dksbZ ce ugha u dksbZ foLQksV A dqN Hkh ugh gS A tc fQYe cudj vkbZ rks mlus yksxksa dks cgqr fujk’k fd;k A vki ^LdYifVax bu Vkbe* if<+,--- mlesa tks o.kZu fd;k x;k gS--- oks rks volkn esa pyk x;k ! mlij vVSd gksus ‘kq: gks x, A ysfdu vc le> esa vkrk gS latho fd rkjdksoksLdh D;k dj x;k A og fQYe ,d cPps ij gS A gS u \ ftldk firk ;q) esa ekjk x;k gS A fdruh egku fQYe gS oks fd ;q) dh vlyh dStqvYVh rks oks tsujs’ku gksrh gS--- oks cPpk ! fo/oal dk vlyh f’kdkj rks og cPpk gS A oks firk ugh gS--- mldh rks e`R;q gks xbZ gS A

latho % okdbZ A

mn; izdk’k % vPNk] oks ftl dgkuh ls ,MkWIV dh xbZ oks cgqr gh lk/kkj.k :lh dFkkdkj dh ,d lkekU; lh dgkuh Fkh A ysfdu rkjdksoksLdh us mls ,d egku fQYe esa cny fn;k A rks ,MkWIVs’ku esa ,d ckr ;s Hkh gksrh gS fd vPNk :ikarj.k ,d lk/kkj.k lh lkfgfR;d d`fr dks Hkh egku fQYe esa cny ldrk gS A tcfd MkW- ft+okxks bldk fcYdqy mYVk gS A bruk vPNk miU;kl gS oks--- cksfjl iLrjukd dk ysfdu mlij cgqr [k+jkc fQYe cuh--- cfYd mlds lkFk rks ;s Hkh gqvk fd tc ml fQYe dks lkbcsfj;k esa ‘kwV djus dh btkt+r ugh nh xbZ rks mls dgha vkSj ‘kwV djds ogh pht+ fØ,V djus dh dksf’k’k dh xbZ A ogha QkWx vkSj lkjh pht+sa A vki ml fQYe dks ns[k ugh ik,axs D;ksafd MkW- ft+okxks miU;kl ,d cgqr cM+h vkbjuh ds Økbfll ds :c: gS A

latho % MsfoM yhu ds funsZ’ku esa cuh gS oks fQYe A eSaus ns[kh gS mls ysfdu eSa miU;kl ugha i<+ ldk gw¡ A

mn; izdk’k % eSaus miU;kl Hkh i<+k gS vkSj fQYe Hkh ns[kh gS] latho th--- miU;kl vki MªkWi ugha dj ik,axs D;ksafd ;s tks LVsV vkSj bafMfot+qvy--- ;k lCtsDV vkSj LVsV gS u---- ukxfjd vkSj jkT;--- mu nksuksa ds }a} dks MkW- ft+okxks cMs+ rkdroj s yxrk gS fd ^ikFksj ikapkyh* nksuksa :iksa esa vPNh gS A miU;kl Hkh vPNk Fkk vkSj fQYe Hkh fuf’pr gh egku gS A rks ,slk Hkh gksrk gS A   

latho % det+ksj cnyko ds dbZ vkSj mnkgj.k Hkh gSa A panz/kj’kekZ ^xqysjh* dh dgkuh ^mlus dgk Fkk* ij tks fQYe cuh og csgn det+ksj fQYe gS A [k+Sj] NksfM, A ysfdu ,d ckr vkSj gS tks ppkZ ds yk;d gS] mn; izdk’k th A vkSj oks ;s fd lkfgfR;d d`fr;ksa ij fQYe cukus dh t+:jr gh D;wa gS--- tSls vki pkyhZ pSifyu dh fQYesa mBkb;s ;k fQj rkjdksoksLdh dh fQYesa A eq>s yxrk gS fd ^lsfØQkbl* vkSj ^lksykfjl* dks NksM+ fn;k tk,--- lksykfjl ,d lkbal fQD’ku ij vk/kkfjr gS A rks laHkor% mldh dksbZ Hkh fQYe lkfgfR;d d`fr ij vk/kkfjr ugh gS---

mn; izdk’k % muesa rks [kSj fLØuIys Hkh ugh gS--- fcYd rkjdksoksLdh ds ckjs esa rks ;s dgk tkrk gS fd oks vius vkbfM;k ij gh fQYesa cukrk Fkk--- rks oks rks jsvj gS A

latho % Bhd ckr gS A ysfdu vkWlZu osYl dh ^flfVtu dsu* dks yhft,--- ;k vki bZjkfu;u fQYedkjksa ds nsf[k, A ekftn ekftnh] tQ+j iukgh] vCckl fdjkSLreh ;k e[+keyckQ+ dh dkSu lh fQYe lkfgfR;d d`fr;ksa ij gS--- cxZeSu dh Hkh dksbZ fQYe lkfgfR;d d`fr ij vk/kkfjr ugh gS tcfd oks jaxeap ds Hkh mLrkn Fks A rks loky ;g mBrk gS fd vPNs flusek dks lkfgR; ij D;ksa fuHkZj jguk pkfg, \

mn; izdk’k % ugha] ugh--- nsf[k, ,d pht+ crkÅa vkidks fd lc dqN ds ckotwn ftldks ge uSjsfVo dgrs gSa--- vk[;ku--- rks vk[;ku ,d ,slh pht+ gS tks dfork ls ysdj jaxeap] dgkuh] miU;kl vkSj ;gka rd fd isafVaXl esa Hkh ekStwn gS vkSj oks flusek esa Hkh gS A rks tks uSjsfVo gS] mlds fy, vki tkrs gSa lkfgR; ds ikl A u Hkh tk,a rks dksbZ ckr ugh A tSls dh vkius mnkgj.k fn, gSa A eSa Hkh mlh ekU;rk dk gw¡ ftl ekU;rk ds vki gSa A dksbZ t+:jh ugh gS fd lkfgR; ls ,MkWIV fd;k gh tk,--- ,d cgqr gh ekSfyd vk[;ku gks ldrk gS vkids le; dk D;ksafd nsf[k, fd ^n csfld VkLd bt+ Vw Vsy n LVksjh vkWj uSjsfVo vkWQ ;ksj Vkbe* A vius le; dks vki dSls O;Dr djrs gSa--- vkius bZjku dh tks fQYesa crkbZa oks vius le; dks lkeus yk jgh gSa A ysfdu ,MkWaIVs’ku blhfy, gksrk gS fd vkidks uSjsfVo dh [kkst jgrh gS vkSj lkfgR; lc dqN ds ckotwn vius le; ds lkekftd] lkaLd`frd ladVksa ls] mlds fojks/kkHkklksa ls--- lcls--- dkQh xgjkbZ ls tqM+k gqvk gksrk gS A tc ysfuu dgrs gSa fd rksyLrkW; dk lkfgR; lksfo;r lekt dk niZ.k gS vkSj gekjs ;gka Hkh ;gh ekuk tkrk gS rks lkfgR; rks lpeqp esa vius le; dk ,slk nLrkost+ gksrk gS tks bfrgkl ds ckgj gS A bfrgkl esa tks pht+sa vki ugha ik,axs oks vkidks lkfgR; esa fey tk,xk A rks bl rjg oks ,d cgqr cM+k vkxkj gS--- Vªstj gS--- mlds ikl lc dksbZ vkrk gS--- ,d isaVj Hkh vkrk gS] fQYedkj Hkh vkrk gS] fFk;sVj okys Hkh vkrs gSa vkSj lkfgR; ls ysdj tkrk gS A mldks jksd rks ugh ldrs vki A rks ,MkWaIVs’kal gksaxs A ysfdu dSls gksaxs--- eq[; pht rks ;s gS fd tks :ikarj.k vki djrs gSa ;s ,d iwjh Vsduhd gS vkSj ;s fØ,fVfoVh Hkh gS--- rks nksuksa blesa ‘kkfey gSa A

latho % vPNk] mn; izdk’k th] FkksM+k ihNs dh vksj ykSVsa rks geyksx ckr dj jgs Fks u fd lkfgR; ls tks yksx Hkh flusek dh rjQ vk, gSa] tSls& dSQh vkt+eh] tkafulkj v[+rj] ‘kSysUnz] euksgj ‘;ke tks’kh] deys’oj] bLer pqx+rkbZ] lkfgj yqf/k;kuoh oxSjg rks ;s oks yksx gSa ftUgksaus lkfgR; vkSj flusek nksuksa ek/;eksa ds QdZ dks /;ku esa jD[kk vkSj csrgjhu ;ksxnku fn;k---- rks D;k bUgsa ns[krs gq, lkfgR; ds yksxksa dks T+;knk ls T+;knk flusek dh vksj ugha vkuk pkfg, A

mn; izdk’k % vkidk loky rks cM+k vPNk gS ysfdu ;s dSls gksxk--- cgqr cM+h leL;k gS A vki nsf[k, fd ;s tks ikWi dYpj ;k ikWi vkVZ~l gSa---

latho % eSa ,d vkSj ckr dguk pkg¡wxk fd vkt ge yksx flusek esa dgkuh dk tks jksuk jks jgs gSa--- oks mEnk fdLe dh fdLlkxksbZ vkSj oks lCtsDV--- mldh ewy otg rks eq>s ;gh yxrh gS fd lkfgR; esa vfHk:ph j[kus okys yksx flusek ls dVs gq, gSa rks bldk vlj rks flusek es fn[kkbZ iM+rk gS---

mn; izdk’k % latho th] vkius euksgj ‘;ke tks’kh dk miU;kl i<+k gS D;k \ ^getkn* \

latho % th A

mn; izdk’k % vc vki mldks fQj ls i<+dj nsf[k, A vkids bl iz’u dk mÙkj gS oks A ;kuh vki vxj pkyhl ;k ipkl ds n’kd ds flusek dh ckr djsa rks ml le; vki nsf[k, fd lkfgR;dkj] lkfgR; vkSj flusek dk ;k lkfgR;dkj vkSj funsZ’kd dk bruk ?kuk laca/k Fkk fd iwfN, er A i`Fohjkt tks Fks oks flQZ ukVd gh ugh dj jgs Fks ;k flusek esa gh ugh Fks cfYd oks gekjs ;gka ds ‘khy th tSls dfo ls ukVd fy[kokrs Fks A ^fdlku* tSls ukVd ds lkS ls T;knk eapu gq,--- :l rd esa ml ukVd dk eapu gqvk A rks bl rjg dh fudVrk Fkh lkfgR;dkj vkSj flusek ds chp esa A rks ml le; D;k Fkk fd tSls flusek esa /ku pkfg,--- mlds fuek.kZ esa ykxr gS rks oks tks lkslsZt+ Fks oks vkbMsafVQkbM Fks fd Qyka us viuh t+ehu csap nh--- Qyka us viuk ?kj fxjoh j[k fn;k A egcwc ds ckjs esa ;s dgk tkrk gS fd fQYe cukus ds fy, mUgksaus vius ?kj ds t+soj ls ysdj lc dqN fxjoh j[k fn;k A ‘kSysUnz dh fQYe rhljh dle cuh rks mldh Økbfll Hkh vki tkurs gSa A

latho % ‘kSysUnz dh rks tku gh pyh xbZ A 

mn; izdk’k % gka A rks ^getkn* esa ;s lc phtsa vklkuh ls le> esa vkrh gSa A oks ,d rjg ls fgUnh fQYeksa dh bfrgkl&dFkk gh gS---

latho % getkn& fgUnh flusek dk ,sfrgkfld vk[;ku A

mn; izdk’k % fgLVªh vkWQ fgUnh flusek A fcYdqy A vki ns[ksa fd tSls tSls lkS¶V euh vkus yxh] fQj CySd euh vkus yxh] fQj vaMjoYMZ mlesa ‘kkfey gksrk pyk x;k vkSj Bhd mlh ds lekukarj lkfgR;dkj ogka ls ckgj gksrs pys x;s A oks ewY; ogka ls ckgj gksrs pys x;s A vkt vki ns[k jgs gSa fd ogka tks iSls vk jgs gSa mlesa nqcbZ ls ysdj vkSj Hkh fdrus cM+s&cM+s QkbusallZ ftudks fd ukjdksfVDl esa] MªXl esa cdk;nk nks”kh ik;k x;k gS rks eq>s ugh yxrk fd lkfgR;dkj vc ml :i esa m/kj tk ik,xk ftl rjg dHkh dSQh] ‘kSysUnz ;k lkfgj tSls yksx pys x;s Fks A ysfdu b/kj dqN laHkkouk,a ut+j vk jgh gSa A tSls ^, osMulMs* gS ;k dqN fnuksa igys ,d fQYe vkbZ Fkh ^[kkslyk dk ?kkslyk* A rks ,slh dbZ fQYesa cu jgh gSa tks u;s yksx cuk jgs gSa vkSj fy[k jgs gSa ftuesa cgqr cM+h iwath ugha pkfg, D;ksafd vktdy dh tks fMftVy VsDuksykWth gS mlus dke dks vkSj vklku dj fn;k gS A vki de ykxr esa Hkh fQYesa cuk ldrs gSa rks eq>s yxrk gS fd ‘kk;n vc oks fj’rk fQj cusxk A

latho % lgh dgk vkius] vkfej vkSj , osMulMs tSlh fQYesa dkQh de ykxr esa cukbZ xbZ gSa vkSj [kwc pyh gSa A ^, osMulMs* rks vkradokn dks ysdj vke vkneh ds vanj tks xqLlk Hkj x;k gS mls cM+h vklkuh ls lkeus ykrh gS A ,axj vkWQ dkWeu eSu A vPNk ;s crkbZ;s fd lkfgfR;d dgkfu;ksa ;k miU;klksa ij vc rd tks fQYesa cuh gSa muesa ls dksbZ fQYe tks vkidks [kklrkSj ij ilan gks A esjs [;ky ls ^rhljh dle* dk tks :ikarj.k gS mlls vki t+:j lger gksaxs A

mn; izdk’k % gka] eSa lger gw¡ A og cgqr gh fyfjdy gS oks fQYe A csgn y;kRed vkSj ekfeZd A jksekafVd A D;wafd ;s ekudj pfy, fd js.kq tks Fks oks Bhd mÙkj Nk;kokn ¼iksLV&jksekafVflT+e½ tsujs’ku ds dFkkdkj Fks vkSj muesa oks jksekafVflT+e cpk gqvk Fkk rks mldh vkRek dks idM+k gS ml fQYe us A vkSj mlesa ftu yksxksa us Hkh dke fd;k gS] jktdiwj] oghnk jgeku vkfn rks mudk dke Hkh vki nsf[k,--- lc ds lc bUokWYo gSa mlesa vkSj ,slk flusek ckj&ckj ugha curk gS A

latho % cgqr xgjk izHkko NksM+rh gS oks fQYe fd vxj ge ml dgkuh dks nqckjk i<+ jgs gksrs gSa--- esjk eryc gS fQYe ns[kus ds ckn vkSj tc ghjkckbZ dk laokn vkrk gS--- igyh ckj--- ;kn dfj, oks Qsuwfxyklh cksyh& ^vgk ! ekjks er !* rks ,d >Vds ls oghnk jgeku dk oks psgjk--- mudh oks vkokt+ xwatrh gSA

mn; izdk’k % fcYdqy A vc tSls ghjkeu dk oks bukslsal tks fdlh Hkh ml le; ds xkao esa jgus okys fdlku esa 6  gS A og csgj det+ksj fQYe gS ysfdu mldks ns[kdj vki ;s tku tkrs gSa fd gka HkkbZ] iqjkuh fnYyh esa bl&bl rjg ds yksx jgrs gSa vkSj tks yksx ;s nkok djrs gSa fd cM+h vPNh fnYyh gS oks ,sls le; esa vpkud det+ksj gks tkrs gSa--- ikxy gks tkrs gSa ;k fdlh Hkh rjg dh fgalk ds fy, oks vkxs c<+ ldrs gSa A ^lhrkjke ckt+kj* Hkh ,d ,slh gh fQYe Fkh tks cgqr ekbØks yscy ij thou dk ,d va’k izLrqr djrh gS vkSj mlds lkFk ge lc ,d nwljs dks tksM+ ikrs gSa A

latho % vuqjkx d’;Ik dh nso Mh vkius ns[kh gS \

mn; izdk’k % ugha] eSa mls ugha ns[k ldk gw¡ A

latho % vHkh vkius ftl rjg dh ckr dgh--- eq>s ,d iz’u vkils djuk gS A ,QVhvkbZvkbZ iw.ks ds ,d lsfeukj esa vuqjkx d’;Ik us dgk fd mUgksaus nsonkl dks ekWaMuZ dkWUVsDLV esa j[kdj nso Mh cukbZ fd vkt ds le; dk nsonkl dSlk gksxk---A fQYe dk tks cSdMªkWi gS mn; izdk’k th] oks iatkc gS tcfd ewy d`fr iatkc dh i`”BHkwfe esa ugh gS A rks esjk loky ;s gS fd D;k mÙkjizns’k dk ^gksjh* oSlk gh gksxk tSlk iatkc dk ^gksjh* gksxk A

mn; izdk’k % ugha] ugha] nsf[k, eSa rks blesa fcYdqy Li”V gw¡ A cfYd eSa rks ekQh pkgrk gwa fd bl ij cgqr yksxksa ls esjh ckrphr gqbZ gS--- vki bUVªSDV dfj, nwljs {ks=ksa ls rks ,d rks lcls cM+h Hkwy geus ;g eku yh gS fd tks dkWyksfu;y ,xszfjvu ekWMy Fkk gekjs xkao dk--- oks fufoZokn vkSj ,dek= ekWMy ^xksnku* esa gS A ;s xyr gS A vkt Hkh vki ns[ksaxs rks gekjh tks ,xszfjvu bdkWukWeh gS mlesa cgqr cM+k varj gS A vki vkt ukWFkZ bLV ds xkao tkb;s ;k gfj;k.kk] iatkc ;k vle ds xkao tkb;s A muds daVªkfMDl’kal] mudh cukoV] muds lkekftd laca/k] ikfjokfjd fj’rs lc fHkUu gSa A latho]  ^gksjh* vdsyk ekWMy ugh Fkk iwjs Hkkjrh; fdlku dk tSlk fd geus fcuk fopkj fd, Lohdkj dj fy;k A tSls txnh’k panz dk miU;kl i<+sa ^/kjrh /ku u viuk* vkSj ^dHkh u NksM+sa [ksr*--- vkidks bldk mÙkj fey tk,xk A

latho % dkyh ls \

mn; izdk’k % gka] nsf[k, ^/kjrh /ku u viuk* dk tks dkyh gS] og yxHkx xkscj gS A og ‘kgj x;k gS vkSj fQj ogka ls dqN iSls dekdj ykSVk gS A og nfyr tkfr dk gS vkSj fdlh Hkh nfyr dk iDdk ?kj ugha gS A rks mldh ,d [okfg’k gS fd mldk ?kj iDdk cu tk, A Åij&Åij ls iwjk xkao mls lgkuqHkwfr fn[kk jgk gS ysfdu ?kj cuus dh izfØ;k esa mldh tks nqxZfr gksrh gS--- fgUnh esa D;k gS u latho th fd ,d syrk gS A vkSj mldh ekfeZdrk vkidks fgyk dj j[k nsrh gS ysfdu mlij ppkZ dk fjokt+ ugh gS vkSj ckj&ckj gksjh vkSj xksnku ij ppkZ gks jgh gS A 

latho % tSls reke ys[kdksa vkSj mudh jpukvksa dks njfdukj fd;k tkrk jgk vkSj fd;k tkrk gS---

mn; izdk’k % gka A vkSj fQj mlds ckn ^dHkh u NksMsa [ksr* if<+, A ;s tks ekWMZukbts’ku gqvk--- tks VªSDVj] QfVZykbt+j ds t+fj, tks xzhu fjokWY;w’ku gqvk vkSj blls tks ,d dqykc iSnk gqvk tks vki ns[ksaxs fd lcls T+;knk fgalk] vijk/k] ,U¶yw,al--- ;s tks dgrs gSa fpdu ÝkbZ vkSj fàLdh okyk tks iwjk nkSj vk;k--- mlesa tks fgalk vkbZ mldh] ^dHkh u NksMsa+ [ksr* esa mlls cf<+;k fMfiD’ku gks ugh ldrk A oks iatkc gS A ;s oks xzhu csYV gS] tgka ij gfjr&Økafr dke;kc gqbZ Fkh vkSj tgka ekWMZu ,xzhdYpj bdkWukWeh us vius dhfrZeku dk;e fd;s Fks A gS u--- ;s ogka dk fdLlk gS A ysfdu ;s ckr vkt rd ugha fy[kk x;k--- tcfd vkradokn] fefyVsalh ;k /kkfeZd fo}s”k--- mxzokn ogha ls iSnk gqvk vkSj oks Hkh mlesa dgha u dgha cht :i esa fo|eku Fkk A rks vki mldks nsf[k, oks iatkc dh i`”BHkwfe esa gS A gksjh ds lkFk leL;k ;s Fkh fd gksjh dk--- og rks geyksxksa dks viuk blfy, yxrk gS fd oks gekjs xkao dh dgkuh gS A tSls vki fcgkj ds gSa ;k ekuyhft, mÙkjizns’k] e/;izns’k--- ds gSa rks yxHkx ;gh fLFkfr;ka gekjs xkao dh Fkha vkSj vkt Hkh gSa A

latho % dqN ugha cnyk gS !

mn; izdk’k % ugha A eSaus eksgunkl fy[kh gS vkius i<+h gksxh oks dgkuh rks mlesa nsf[k, fd phtsa vHkh Hkh ugha cnyh gSa A

latho % th gka] ^Mj dk jax* rks eSus Hkh ns[kk gS A eksgunkl dgkuh] vkidh bl ckr dks cM+h xgjkbZ ls mHkkjrh gS A

mn; izdk’k % ¼g¡ldj½ vxj mlesa bVSfyDl esa fy[ks Vkbe fjÝsal u gks rks dksbZ Hkh dgsxk fd ;s lu~ 32 ;k 34   dh dgkuh gS ysfdu vki iatkc esa tkb;s] gfj;k.kk esa tkb;s vkidks ogka xkao ugh feysxk A cfYd geyksx vHkh ,d MkWD;wesaVjh ‘kwV djus x, Fks A ogka gy pykus okyk dksbZ ugh gS A xk; vkSj cSy tks Fks--- lc tkus dgka pys x, A Ms;jh esa Hkh HkSalks dk bLrseky gks jgk gS A

latho % ,slh reke rjg dh ekSrsa gqbZ gSa--- dkWMosy us rks viuh ,d d`fr dk uke gh jD[kk gS& LVMht bu Mkbax dYpj A

mn; izdk’k % gka A

latho % vPNk A ‘kjrpanz dh nsonkl dks ysdj ,d vkSj loky mB jgk gS] mn; izdk’k th A nsonkl ds dFkkud dks nsf[k,--- ;s ckr fcYdqy lp gS fd fQYeksa dks ^fgV* djkus vkSj lQy cukus ds tks Hkh rFkkdfFkr QkWewZys cuk, x, gSa] nsonkl dk dFkkud mlds Bhd foijhr [kM+k gS A vkf[kj D;k dkj.k gS fd nsonkl ij ckj&ckj fQYe cukus dh t+:jr iM+rh gS A ih-lh c:vk ls ysdj fcey jk;] lat; yhyk Hkalkyh vkSj vuqjkx d’;Ik A vkf[kj ,slh D;k pht+ gS mlesa tks flusek dks bruh vihy djrh gS \

mn; izdk’k % vkidks D;k yxrk gS \

latho % eq>s rks yxrk gS fd nsonkl ds vanj dFkkoLrq dk tks foU;kl gS--- ;k fQj izHkko’kkyh pfj=kadu A ?kVukvksa dk rkuk&ckuk--- ukVdh; fLFkfr;ksa ls f?kjk gqvk ^nsok* A eSa nsonkl ds fdjnkj dks cM+k XySejl fdjnkj ekurk gwa A ,d tehankj dk yM+dk gS--- lq[kh&lEiUu ?kj dk vkSj [kqn dks ‘kjkc esa Mqcks&Mqcks dj cckZn dj ysrk gS vkSj vkf[kj esa ne rksM+rk Hkh gS rks ikjks ds njokt+s ij--- rks ftlus rkmez ikjks ds lkFk vthc&vthc lqywd fd;k ysfdu ejk rks mlh ls feyus dh pkg esa---mldh pkS[kV ij A ;s pht+ A

mn; izdk’k % latho th] eSa bls nwljs ut+fj, ls ns[krk gw¡ A eSa ;s ugha ekurk fd dksbZ ykfLVax oSY;w gksrh gS--- ‘kkLor ewY; gksrs gSa fdlh Hkh laca/k ds A ysfdu nsf[k,] nsonkl dk tks dsUnzh; fo”k; gS] oks gS izse A vkSj oks izse tks gS vxj ewy d`fr dks ns[ksa rks oks gS lkearh lekt esa A vkSj mlh lekt esa nsonkl ikjks dks [kksrk gS A ;kuh izse vkSj mldh oapuk A ;s gS mldh dsUnzh; Fkhe A rks gqvk D;k fd ;s bruh dsUnzh; gS--- tSlk cks[k+sZl us dgk gS fd nqfu;k esa ,d gh dgkuh fy[kh xbZ gS--- nwljh dgkuh fy[kh gh ugha xbZ A vkSj vkt rd gj dksbZ ogh dgkuh fy[krk gS A vius ,lsUl esa ;s ckr lgh Hkh gS fd vki le; dks cny nsrs gSa] o.kZu cny nsrs gS] fMVsfyax cny nsrs] fo”k; oLrq cny nsrs gSa] dgkuh dgus ds rjhds oxSjg cny nsrs gSa ysfdu ikjks vkSj nso ds chp ;k L=h vkSj iq:”k ds chp tks Hkh laca/k gS ftldks ge izse ds :i esa tkurs gSa oks cqfu;knh :i esa ogh jgrh gS A blhfy, oks et+snkj yxrh gS D;ksafd vki mlh laca/k dks vius le; esa nqckjk ns[kuk pkgrs gSa fd vc dSlk gksxk vkSj ;gh oks pht+ gS tks vkidks ckj&ckj izsfjr djrh gS fd mls fQj ls cuk;k tk, A vkSj ,slk flQZ nsonkl ds lkFk ugha gqvk gS--- ,slk cgqr lkjh dgkfu;ksa ds lkFk gqvk gS A tSls vki jkek;.k ns[ksa A ;k eSa rks ekurk gwa fd bfy;M vkSj egkHkkjr ;s nks ,slh d`fr;ka gSa tks yxHkx ‘kkLor gSa A egkHkkjr dks yhft,--- mldks fdrus rjg ls cuk;k vkSj fn[kk;k x;k gS A mlds VqdM+ksa dks ysdj dgkfu;k¡ fy[kh xbZ gSa] ukVd fy[ks x, gSa] fQYesa cuh gSa A ihVlZ czqDl us tc egkHkkjr ij fFk;sVj fd;k rks mlus dgk fd blesa eSa ,d gh ns’k ds] ,d gh Hkk”kk ds ;k ,d gh uLy ds dSjsDVlZ ugha ywaxk A mlus iwjh ,fid dkfLVax rS;kj dh vkSj fofHkUu ns’kksa ds vfHkusrk&vfHkusf=;ksa dks tqVk;k--- fQj mlls Hkh mldks larq”Vh ugha feyh rks mlus rjg&rjg ds eq[kkSVs dk lgkjk fy;k--- gS u--- rks mu lcds bLrseky ls mlus ,d ,slk egkHkkjr rS;kj fd;k tks Xykscy gS--- lkoZHkkSfed gS A oSls Hkh egkHkkjr dh tks dFkk gS oks ml ,fidSfyVh dh dgkuh gS tks fdlh ,d ns’k esa vkbMsaVhQkbZ ugha gksxh A ge vxj ;s nkok djsa fd ugha th egkHkkjr rks--- tSls geus ;g eku fy;k fd v;ks/;k Qyka txg ?kfVr gqvk Fkk vkSj geus mrus cM+s egkdkO; dks mBkdj ,d NksVs ls txg esa ykdj lhfer dj fn;k A egkHkkjr ds lkFk Hkh ;gh fLFkfr gS& ;s dq:{ks= gS] ;s Qyka gS] oxSjg oxSjg A tSls bfy;M dgha ,d txg ?kfVr ugha gqvk] tks gsysu Fkh ;k VªkW; dk ;q) Fkk oks ;qfuolZy gS A rks D;k gksrk gS fd ge mldks nqgjkrs gSa--- HkkbZ&HkkbZ dk laca/k ;k ifr&iRuh dk laca/k ;k izseh vkSj izsfedk dk laca/k A tks ekuoh; laca/k ml le; Fks] gekjs le; esa Hkh gSa A vHkh eSaus ,d iVdFkk fy[kh gS tks lq/khj feJk dks cgqr ialn vkbZ gS vkSj dqN gh fnuksa esa oks mlij fQYe ‘kq: djus okys gSa A mlesa ,d O;fDr izse dh [kkst esa gS vkSj oks fØdsV esa cSfVax djrs gq, djksM+ifr cu tkrk gS A ,d pkSdk yxrk gS vkSj mlds vkB yk[k :i;s vkB djksM+ esa cny tkrs gSa--- dgkuh ;s gS A rks vehj cuus ds ckn yksx mlls dgrs gSa fd rqe vc thou dk vkuan yks--- rks os yksx mls rjg rjg ds jkLrs crkrs gSa A yksx dgrs gSa fd LohMsu pyks] LohMt+ySaM pyks] Qkbo LVkj] lsosu LVkj gksVy esa fcik’kk c’kq dks ys pyks] jk[kh lkoar dks ys pyks--- bldks ys pyks] mldks ys pyks--- rks oks dgrk gS fd eSaus ftl pht+ dk lq[k dHkh ugha tkuk] esjs fy, tks phtsa LVªsat gSa muesa eq>s D;k et+k vk,xk--- eq>s rks muesa etk vk,xk ftu phtksa dks eSa [kks pqdk gw¡ A rks oks [kksbZ gqbZ phtksa dks ikus dh dksf’k’k djus yxrk gS A oks ykyVsu [kjhn ykrk gS] xzkeksQksu [kjhn ykrk gS] tklwlh miU;kl i<+us yxrk gS--- [kfV;k [kjhn ykrk gS A mldh [okfg’k Fkh fd leqnz ds fdukjs mldh ,d >ksaiM+h gks rks ogka oks ,d >ksaiM+h cuokrk gS A fQj oks pkgrk gS fd ,d vkSjr gks tks eNyh idkuk tkurh gks vkSj ftls yksdxhr vkrk gks--- oxSjg&oxSjg A rks lkjh phtsa tks ckt+kj ls oks [kjhn ldrk Fkk] [kjhn ykrk gS A ysfdu oSlh yM+dh dgka ls vk,\ mldh tks vkbfM;y vkSjr gS A vkSj rHkh ,d fnu mls ,d ckj esa ,d yM+dh fn[krh gS A og mls vkWQj nsrk gS A yM+dh dks igys rks cM+k vthc yxrk gS ysfdu ckn esa og mldh ckr eku ysrh gS A og yM+dh cgqr VSysUVsM vkSj ekWMZu gS ysfdu oks lc dqN lh[krh gS] lc dqN djrh gS A eryc ;s fd ml yM+ds ds [;kyksa esa tks vkSjr gS mlds tSlk cuus ds fy, og lc dqN djrh gS A blds cnys esa ysu&nsu ds fy, nksuksa ds chp ,d fyf[kr dkWUVªSDV gksrk gS A rks vki nsf[k, fd oks dgkuh cM+h vkbjuh dh dgkuh gS fd vkt ds le; esa ;fn vki izse Hkh ikuk pkgsaxs rks oks vuqca/k ij vk/kkfjr gksxk A gdhdr ds /kjkry ij vki ,slk dqN vki ugha ik,axs A nsonkl ij eSa dguk pkgwaxk fd muds chp ds tks laca/k gSa mldh otg ls vkusokys le; esa Hkh mlij fQYe cukus dh laHkkouk cuh jgsxh A

latho % lat; yhyk Hkalkyh okyh nsonkl vkidks dSlh yxh Fkh\ ‘kkg:[k [kku] ,s’o;kZ jk; vkSj ek/kqjh nhf{kr dks ysdj cukbZ xbZ og fQYe dkQh ppkZ esa jgh Fkh A  

mn; izdk’k % eq>s vPNh yxh Fkh oks fQYe A cfYd vki rks ,MkWIVs’ku dh gh ckr dj jgs gSa--- ml fQYe ij dbZ yksxksa us vkifÙk trkbZ Fkh A ysfdu eq>s og vPNh yxh A D;wafd nsf[k,--- dqN ifjorZu tks brus fnuksa esa gq, gSa mls ns[krs gq, Hkalkyh us Hkh cnyko fd, Fks ml fQYe esa A tSls fd ewy d`fr esa nsonkl ‘kk;n fl;kyng ls dydÙkk vkrk gS--- ml le; Hkys gh oks ,d cM+h nwjh jgh gks ysfdu vc oks ckr ugha jgh tcfd ;s t+:jh Fkk fd nwjh dk oks izHkko iSnk fd;k tk, rks Hkalkyh us mldks baXySaM Hkstk A fQj vki nsf[k, fd mldk tks VsDlpj gS] oks daVsEijjh gS A tcfd mldks xzkeh.k ifjos’k esa gh j[k dj vxj cukrs gSa--- xzkeh.k flusek dh rjg--- tSls ^ikFksj ikapkyh* dks vxj vki vkt cuk;saxs rks og ml VsDlpj esa ugha cusxk A ml VsDlpj dks cnyuk iM+sxk A njvly ,Dlikst+ gksrs&gksrs vkidh tks fot+qvy ij’ksIlal gSa] oks cny tkrs gSa--- ;s rks vki tkurs gSa fd flusek dh vyx Hkk”kk gksrh gS--- mlds dksM~l Hkh vyx gksrs gSa--- rks lat; yhyk Hkalkyh us tks nsonkl cukbZ mldks mUgksaus vkt ds fluseSfVd VsDlpj esa s ugha yxrk fd cgqr ,efcfl;l Fks oks A

latho % vkidh dgkuh ^eksgunkl* ij et+gj dkejku us tks fQYe cukbZ gS ftlds vki iVdFkk ys[kd Hkh Fks A mlds :ikarj.k dh tks izfØ;k jgh mlds ckjs esa dqN crkb;s A esjh mRlqdrk [kklrkSj ij bl ckr dks ysdj gS fd ewy dgkuh ds chp&chp esa ns’k&nqfu;k esa py jgh ?kVukvksa dk tks C;kSjk vkius fn;k gS--- mldks dSls :ikarfjr fd;k x;k \ bekunkjh ls vxj eSa ml dgkuh dks ,MkWIV d:a] rks pkgs tSls Hkh gks] eSa mls ugha NksM+ ldrk A gkykafd oks pSysaftax gS A  

mn; izdk’k % njvly] mlesa gekjh tks le>nkjh Fkh oks ;s fd mlesa ge fdlh Hkh :i esa--- pkgs Vsyhfot+u U;wt+ ds :i esa gh yk;sa ysfdu vkt ds le; dk ,d baVjQsvjsal ckj&ckj gksxk--- ;s geus mlesa NksM+k gqvk Fkk A nwljk] ge tc mldks ,MkWIV dj jgs Fks rks esjk eu Fkk fd tks ^eSu vkWQ ekcZy* gS] dqN ml rjg dk ,MkWIVs’ku gks A fd dqN yksx eksgunkl dh ?kVuk dks ns[k ysrs gSa--- ekuyhft, ,d U;wt+pSuy dh Vhe tkrh gS] eksgunkl ds ckjs esa irk yxkus vkSj oks bruk bUokSYo gks tkrh gS fd oks [kqn iwjh dgkuh dk ,d fgLlk cu tkrh gS A tSlk fd vkius ^jax ns clarh* esa ns[kk A ^eSu vkWQ ekcZy* esa Hkh ;gh gS A mlesa D;k gksrk gS fd lektoknh Økafr ds ckn etnwjksa dks ghjks cukus ds fy, ,d fQYe cukuh gS] tks etnwjksa dks izsj.kk ns A rks mlesa tks yM+dk pquk tkrk gS] oks et+nwj dk gh ,d yM+dk gS A og fuEu oxZ dk gS vkSj ml fQYe ds jksy ds fy, fcYdqy fQV ik;k tkrk gS ysfdu tc og ml fQYe esa dke djus yxrk gS rks oks lpeqp ogh gks tkrk gS tks ,d lPps Økafrdkjh dks ;k VªsM ;wfu;u yhMj dks gksuk pkfg, A rks vc ml fQYe dk ghjks [kqn gh ,d Økafrdkjh esa cny pqdk gS vkSj oks lcds fy, leL;k cu tkrk gS A rks esjh bPNk dqN bl rjg ls ,MkWIV djus dh Fkh---

latho % D;w¡fd vkidk tks uSjsfVo gS mlesa dqN mlh rjg ds uSjs’ku dh xqatkbZ’k gS---

mn; izdk’k % gka] esjh bPNk Fkh fd tSls ,d U;wt+ okyksa dh Vhe xbZ gqbZ gS vkSj mlesa ls dksbZ dSjsDVj eksgunkl ds thou esa bUokWYo gks tk,--- ysfdu ‘kk;n ;g FkksM+h dfBu fQYe gksrh A rks ;s r; gqvk fd ge ,sls cuk;saxs fd xkao ds lkFk vjcu ekbaM dks tksM+k tk lds A D;ksafd vkt Hkh nsf[k, fd nqHkkZX; ls gekjk ‘kgj vkSj gekjk xkao] ;s ekufld :i ls tqM+s gq, ugha gSa A muds chp cgqr cMk+ vyxko gS A cfYd ‘kgj ds yksx] xkao ds yksxksa dks lansg ds lkFk ns[krs gSa vkSj xkao ds yksx] ‘kgj ds yksxksa dks A ;s ,d cqfu;knh n`f”Vdks.k gS A rks leL;k ;s vk jgh Fkh fd bl dgkuh ls vjcu ekbaM dks dSls tksM+sa--- vkf[kj efYVIySDl esa tks n’kZd vk,xk oks Hkh rks tqM+uk pkfg,] dgkuh ls A rks r; gqvk fd ge ,d Vhoh U;wt+ pSuy dh dYiuk djsa--- tgka ij fdlh fLVªaxj us ,d [k+cj Hksth gS--- ftldks ogka dh ,d fjiksVZj ns[krh gS vkSj oks pkgrh gS fd bls izeq[k [k+cj cuk;k tk,--- ysfdu mldk tks ckWl gS oks bls lkekU; dh [k+cj dgdj Vky nsrk gS--- fQj oks fjiksVZj [kqn ls xkao tkrh gS vkSj bl rjg ml yM+dh ds ek/;e ls dgkuh vkxs c<+rh gS A vkSj pwfd oks ,d ‘kgjh yM+dh gS rks ;s ekbaM tqM+ tk,xk vkSj n’kZd Hkh ml dgkuh ls tqM+ ldsaxs A ysfdu eSaus vHkh rd oks fQYe ugha ns[kh gS rks blls T+;knk eSa dqN ugha dg ldrk A gka] fQYe dh dkfLVax ds ckjs esa dqN ckrsa gqbZa Fkha D;ksafd esjk ekuuk gS fd fQYe esa dkfLVax csgn vge Hkwfedk vnk djrk gS A

latho % fcYdqy lgh--- gkWyhoqM esa rks cdk;nk gj izkWtsDV ds fy, dbZ&dbZ dkfLVax Mk;jsDVlZ gksrs gSa A eSa rks tc bjku dh fQYeksa dh dkfLVax ds ckjs esa lqurk gwa rks dkQh gSjkuh gksrh gS A D;wafd nsf[k,--- vki fdl fdjnkj ds fy, dkSu ls vfHkusrk dk p;u djrs gSa ;g dkQh ek;us j[krk gS A ^eksgunkl* ds fy, _frd jks’ku dks dHkh dkLV ugha fd;k tk ldrk A

mn; izdk’k % fcYdqy lgh dg jgs gSa A vki oks nsf[k,--- ^xksnku* ij tks xqyt+kj us fQYe cukbZ--- mldh dkfLVax Hk;kog gS--- D;wafd iadt diwj dks ns[kdj gh--- mldh iwjh dh iwjh tks ‘kkjhfjd cukoV gS oks fdlh [ksr esa dke djus okys fdlku dk gks ugha ldrk A rks vki igys ls gh pkSad tkrs gSa A fQj vki xkscj dks ns[krs gSa--- [kqyh deht+ igus gq,--- rks ogka fjlpZ dk vHkko fn[kkbZ nsrk gS A

latho % pyrs&pyrs] viuh dqN ialnhnk fQYeksa ds ckjs esa crkb;s--- tks vkidks [kklrkSj ls ilan gks A

mn; izdk’k % vHkh eSaus dEI;wVj ij vkidks ^n xzsV fMDVsVj* fn[kkbZ--- pkyhZ pSifyu dh ;s fQYe eq>s cgqr ilan gS A blh rjg ls rkjdksoksLdh dh fQYesa eq>s ilan gSa--- lsfØQkbl] fejj vkSj oks dkSu lh fQYe gS--- LVkWYdj] oks Hkh eq>s cgqr ilan gS A

latho % dksLrk xkojkl dh ^t+sM* dk uke ys jgs Fks vki A

mn; izdk’k % gk¡ A mldh nksuksa fQYesa ^dUQs’ku* Hkh vkSj ^t+sM* Hkh A dgha u dgha eq>s oSls fQYedkj cgqr ilan gSa tks iksfyfVdy vkSj g~;weu nksuksa dks feyk dj fQYesa cukrs gSa A tSls fd ^feflax* gS A fQj yqbZ cquq,y fd fQYesa eq>s cgqr T;knk ilan gS A

latho % dkSu&dkSu lh \

mn; izdk’k % eq>s ^utkfju* cgqr ilan gS A mldks eSa ckj&ckj ns[krk gw¡ A

latho % utkfju--- oks ;qok iknjh okyh fQYe ftlds vanj xjhcksa ds izfr n;k o d:.kk dk Hkko iSnk gks tkrk gS vkSj vkxs pydj mlds vanj ØkbLV cuus dh yyd iSnk gks tkrh gS A ysfdu vkf[kj esa mls ‘kwyh ij yVdk dj ekj fn;k tkrk gS A

mn; izdk’k % gka ogha] ml iknjh dks Hkh ogh naM feyrk gS tks ØkbLV dks feyk Fkk A lR;thr js dh ^ikFksj ikapkyh* A _fRod ?kVd dh fQYeksa dk rks eSa QS+u jgk gwa A xq:nÙk o jktdiwj dh fQYesa Hkh A jktdiwj dh ^Jh 420* vkSj ^vkokjk* csgn ilan gS A cfYd dbZ ckj rks yxrk gS fd jktdiwj dh fQYeksa dk ftruk ewY;kadu gksuk pkfg, Fkk mruk ugha gqvk A mldk ,d xhr csgn ilan vkrk gS& ^fny dk gky lqus fnyokyk* A og deky dk xhr gS A

latho % cgqr cf<+;k xhr gS oks& ^NksVs ls ?kj esa x+jhc dk csVk--- eSa Hkh gw¡ ek¡ ds ulhc dk csVk--- jatks x+e cpiu ds lkFkh--- vkaf/k;ksa esa tyh thou ckrh* A mn; izdk’k th] vkidks ;s ekuuk iM+sxk fd ‘kSysUnz ds xhrkas esa vFkksZa dh dbZ ijrsa [kqyrh Fkha A vkSj os cM+h vklku lh t+cku esa viuh ckr dg tkrs Fks A

mn; izdk’k % lgh dg jgs gSa vki--- deky ds xhrdkj Fks oks A cfYd jktdiwj dh ;s fQYe gh eq>s csgn ilan gS A eSa ;s ekurk gWw¡ fd ‘kk;n ;s tks dkWyksukbt+lZ Fks budh ‘kq:vkr dks oks ns[k jgk Fkk A ,d pht+ eSa vkils vkSj dguk pkgwaxk fd bl le; dk tks xhr ;k laxhr gS] oks ftl fQYe dk gS] mldk Hkh fgLlk gS vkSj mlls vyx Hkh mlus viuh gSfl;r cuk yh gS A rks vkt ds le; esa ,slk Hkh gS A